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Josh Belville – A post 50/90 interview

Posted on November 12, 2008 by Tom
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Another interview. I’m finding these fascinating. In a post or two I’m gonna do a big list of all the songwriting ideas we can steal from these!

Josh Belville

1. 50 songs – did you have a system for finishing?

My only system for finishing was to write 50 songs by the end of September.  It’s a little more difficult when you’re recording demos for each one — suddenly you have to decide which song gets more work, and which song gets less.  I mean, ideally each song would be given the full treatment, but sometimes you just don’t have time, or the song is not as good as you thought it would be, and so you say, “I’ll just do a quick guitar & vocals take and move on.”  That’s what’s so fun about 50/90 — the ability to process something and get it out of the way for the next idea.

2. Which song did you consider your biggest success? Why was it successful?
In terms of best overall song success — lyrics, melody, vocals, demo, etc — I think my biggest success was “Cut Coupons,” which is a track from a “side project” I created called Here Lies Laika.

Download Cut Coupons

Here Lies Laika was kind of a nod to Tim Wille’s 10 EPs project, in that I loved how he was able to create so many different structures of music so quickly.  I basically wanted to steal that idea from him, except without writing 10 EPs.  So I created Here Lies Laika, and that song, Cut Coupons, turned out really well and became a favorite of a lot of people on the site.

3. Music or lyrics?

Ultimately, music.  I think classical music will attest to that.  I understand people who enjoy more lyrical artists, but in the end if a song isn’t catchy or interesting it just won’t stand the test of time.  No song can stand on lyrics alone.

4. Are there any songwriting clichés, musical or lyrical, that you use too much?

I could write a book on all the lyrical clichés I use.  It’s really kind of embarrassing, to look back at songs and say, “Hey, I’ve used that line in three other songs!”  Like the phrase “heaven sent.” I think I’ve used that phrase fifty times in different songs.  I can’t help it — it rhymes well with “innocent”!
I’ve also probably used every guitar chord progression cliché known to man.  I’m a rhythm player, which means I don’t have any cool lead guitar skills, so I don’t mind playing four or five songs in I IV V or the always classic I vi IV V.  Ultimately these aren’t cliché because each musician or songwriter can use them in completely different ways.  But when you’re writing 50 songs in 90 days, they always feel like a cliché, because once I’d come to a new song to write, I’d try to write it with some strange progression that ultimately fouled me up more than help me.

5. How have you developed as a songwriter through this challenge?

I’ve learned to simplify.  Simplify lyrics, simplify melodies, simplify chords if possible.  As much as I’d love to be some guitar virtuoso and write songs with twelve different chords in them, the truth is that 95% of songs out there — catchy, hook-ridden, accessible songs — are written with the simplest melodies and simplest chord structures available.  And so, looking back on the songs I wrote that I feel were good, those songs are also very simple and easy to access as a listener.  And I think that’s the most important thing about music — to be accessible.  You only get to be “out there” and wild when you’ve developed a fan base.  :)

Here’s Josh’s website

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Tim Wille – A post 50/90 interview

Posted on November 9, 2008 by Tom
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Time Wille is, by his own admission, insane. That’s certainly the only plausible explanation for the challenge he set himself for the 50/0 challenge:

‘I plan to write, and record, 10 EPs, each consisting of 5 songs. Each EP will be published by a fictional musician or band, and I will attempt to immerse myself into the styles, methods and processes of these bands as I write their EP for them. I will be consciously avoiding any of my own default creativity. It’s all about re-invention.’

Thankfully his insanity turned to genius, and created songs like this:
Download JeNome – Matter Printers

1. 63 songs? That’s impressive. You wrote and recorded several EPs (my favourite is the Nigel Byron stuff… or possibly the JeNome songs), rather than just isolated songs. How did that help you meet the 50/90 challenge?

It didn’t :-) The way I chose to do things complicated my songwriting a lot. Instead of just writing “a song” 50 times, I wanted to reinvent myself 10 times over, 10 EPs with 5 songs each. I used a different musical style every time, but also a different method of songwriting and performance, varying skill sets, instrumentations and vocal styles etc. This was utterly daunting at the beginning of the challenge, and I was afraid I’d bitten off more than I could chew. I found myself missing the band I had just left behind, and it was difficult to unlearn everything I had just spent the week immersing myself in. But in the end, as I had hoped, I got to the point where I wasn’t really writing songs anymore, I was “writing bands” with relative ease. Towards the end, writing an EP felt more or less like just writing a song.

2. Which of your 50/90 songs are you most proud of? What works well about it?

I like the sounds I created with the bands Smoke (pseudo-classical keys played on electric pianos combined with trance beats) and Mod (the last EP, containing a blend of all the previous nine EPs along with a full symphonic orchestra.) Some of the strongest actual songwriting of the challenge are probably on the Amsterdam EP. From a technical standpoint, I am most proud with Le Novo Ghost and DeviLoop. So it depends what I define as a good achievement if I have to single out a specific EP. On the whole, though, I’m simply proud of making it all the way to ten EPs with so different styles and methods.  

3. You clearly love using fictional characters in your songwriting. Where did that influence come from, and how does it help you come up musical ideas?

I have never used fictional characters before this challenge, but it was a truly interesting experience to try it. I think the influence came during FAWM 2008, where Charlie Cheney and I in the dying moments of the challenge did some last-minute speed albums. I did “pigfeast”, 14 songs in 4 hours, and Charlie did a two-day musical. I discovered that pigfeast sounded like an entirely different version of me, because the method was so different to what I was used to. The lyrical and musical content simply was nothing like the rest of FAWM for me. So that got me thinking – can I write different songs if I consciously take on different methods? That idea evolved, and in March I mentioned to Paul “Hoopshank” Turrell over an indian meal in Brick Lane in London that I may consider angling the 50/90 challenge that way. “In fact”, I continued, making it up on the spot, “I may go for ten EPs of five songs each, with different fake bands.” – “That’s a good idea”, Hoop said, and from that moment on I was committed to doing the challenge this way.
 
And so, now the name-dropping has ceased, I shall settle on just talking about the process. Burr Settles. Oh dear, I can’t seem to Rost! Stop! Sorry. Larry.W. Jones. Oh geez. This is a disaster. DISTAD! Wallbank.
 
Coming up with musical ideas this way is a pretty new process to me. I spend a LOT of time noodling around with each new band, getting into their style and method and trying to force it to become second nature. This became quite easy towards the end. And once the band was inside my head, I found that writing the songs was actually rather easy. It was like being this whole new band and being able to draw on this band’s new and fresh inspiration.

4. How much is your songwriting an emotional instinctive experience? How much is it intellectual?

Usually, I am 95% instinctive in my songwriting. I never write anything down except lyrics, which I often write as I’m going along with the recording. I usually have no idea what notes I’m playing, keeping first takes in the recordings and intuitively guessing what sounds good (and drawing on experience) even when doing complex orchestrations. But in this challenge, some of the bands (in particular, Le Novo Ghost) were very constructivistic, and the ground rules were utterly intellectualized. Even something as emotive as the drugo EP has very strict rules of form. If I should arrange my EPs in order of intuitiveness, starting with the least intuitive and most intellectual, it would go:
 
Le Novo Ghost
DeviLoop
Smoke
drugo
JeNome
Nigel Byron
ViKToR
Hannibal&Snablen
Amsterdam
Mod

I guess I have spanned a rather wide spectrum of songwriting method and expression in this challenge. I certainly feel like I learned something profound by doing it. I can never truly go back to “the old way of doing things” now. It has colored my way of expressing myself musically, for better or for worse, for ever. Personally, I think it’s for better. We’ll see in FAWM ’09…

_______

Thanks Tim! Go and listen to his songs, and be impressed!

And you do have your copy of my free ebook, right?

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